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Old 01-30-2012, 04:07 AM
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Default Overtone music with numerology

I used numerology to sequence an overtone arpeggiator patch I made in my g2 for this track.

http://bagger288.com/music/overtones1.mp3
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:28 AM
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I used numerology to sequence an overtone arpeggiator patch I made in my g2 for this track.

http://bagger288.com/music/overtones1.mp3
thanks for sharing, good work !
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:08 PM
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I listened intriguing. But I don't understand the term Overtone in this connection. How are the overtones being derived. Is this something you setup in DSP or is CV signal processing?

Interesting track. Thanks for posting.

I'm going to give a more thourough listne now!

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Old 01-31-2012, 12:20 PM
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Well, I was working with the intervals in the harmonic series. The overtone series, is just a subset of just intonation, in a sense. Here, I only used the ratios 1/1, 2/1, 3/1, 4/1, 5/1 and so on. Up to about the 16th harmonic, and to get different notes I would transpose where the root note of the series is. In normal just intonation ratios like 5/4 or 3/2, 9/8, etc are used. But here I stuck much more strictly to the tones in the "overtone scale."

I actually got the idea from a book called "tuning, timbre spectrum, scale." I Posted a review of it on my blog, http://bagger288.com/goldenmaster

Ok, edit. To get the overtone notes, I did the tuning external to numerology. I have a "harmonic ratio arpeggiator" system that i've implemented in g2 and reaktor. Basically, I am sending root notes, and gates to my g2. On each incoming gate the ratio synth picks a new note from the "series," and bases that note on the original octave of the incoming note number attached to the gate. sorry if that's confusing, lol.

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Old 01-31-2012, 12:54 PM
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Fascinating explanation. I unfortunately don't have Reaktor so I can't follow how that is setup.

I know the Overtone series from:

Piano Tuning course New School New York City

Paul Hindemith; The Craft of Musical composition
Two Part Writing, Three Part Writing. Harmony
Studies with John Colman student of Hindemiths off an on for five years.

David Hikes and the Harmonic choir. Overtone singing.

Tuvan, mongolian and Tibetan overtone singing

Instrumentation,Danish Royal Conservatory with Hans Abrhamsen 2 years, plus one year course "The Orchestra As One Instrument" Notably the multiphonic technique for winds, the Trumpet, Horn. Violin ghost tones flageolette.


Still all of this and the Harmonic series continues to seem almost mystical.

Nice to see your up to the task..

I'll check the track once again!

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Old 01-31-2012, 02:02 PM
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Thanks for the reply! Yes, the overtone series is great.. It is so simple, but so full of resources. I guess that is obvious enough, since in a sense it is the wellspring of all music.

If you want to find some ways to use it in music, I would suggest the book "new musical resources" by henry cowell... really interesting book.

Using it in practice, is somewhat more complicated. I'd try using scala, or any synth that can be microtuned. Jim also mentioned at one point that microtuning modules were on his list
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:47 AM
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That is wonderful. Thanks for sharing it. It's funny how whenever I get an "escape" from equal temperament, it is so refreshing to my brain.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:16 AM
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Very interesting -- I'm also a fan of alternative scales...

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Jim
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:51 PM
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thanks for checking it out jim!

I've been using numerology with the g2... sequencing a sequencer!
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:16 AM
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This is great. Totally going to dig into that reading you guys posted here later on.
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