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Old 08-26-2014, 07:13 AM
kenk kenk is offline
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Any news on using an iPad to control Numerology?

My wish would be a dedicated app. The Launchpad is OK, but I think the iPad would be even better!

Have fun!
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:02 PM
Arboria Auralist Arboria Auralist is offline
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Any news on using an iPad to control Numerology?

My wish would be a dedicated app. The Launchpad is OK, but I think the iPad would be even better!

Have fun!
I think Lemur is the common answer to that.
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:35 AM
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I'm looking at getting my iPad Air to work with Numerology. I notice that you can choose logic remote in the controller setup. Is this the way to go then. Or is there another app that maintains a similar ease of use but with a few ekstra tools to work with? Lemur seems needlessly nerdy for my usage..
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Old 12-11-2014, 07:42 PM
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I'm looking at getting my iPad Air to work with Numerology. I notice that you can choose logic remote in the controller setup. Is this the way to go then.
Logic remote? I'm not aware of such...

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Or is there another app that maintains a similar ease of use but with a few ekstra tools to work with? Lemur seems needlessly nerdy for my usage..
Mostly I use TouchOSC w/ a custom template, and just the "Generic OSC Controller" setup in N4. I mapped one page for mixing, one for some LFOs I use w/ the modular, and a couple other pages for FX and some synth params. I need to update it to use the "Mixer Controller" setup.

The Lemur app is definitely a more advanced option, and yes, it does take a bit more work to setup -- though what I hear from Lemur users is that it is worth the effort.

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Jim
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Old 12-13-2014, 06:17 AM
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Logic remote is the iPad app for working with Logic, it looks like it won't play with Numerology though.

I bought TouchOSC yesterday so will try getting by with that for now..


I can see the working is OSC mode gives a finer resolution, while I don't really see how that can integrate with Numerology. Seems using the protocol for sending Midi cc and note numbers would be the most straight forward approach..

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Old 12-13-2014, 01:40 PM
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Logic remote is the iPad app for working with Logic, it looks like it won't play with Numerology though.
Nope, that app is custom built for Logic...

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I bought TouchOSC yesterday so will try getting by with that for now..

I can see the working is OSC mode gives a finer resolution, while I don't really see how that can integrate with Numerology. Seems using the protocol for sending Midi cc and note numbers would be the most straight forward approach..
I'd recommend working directly with OSC data when possible, it is more flexible, and I'm pretty sure you'll get quicker response than if you translate to MIDI...

I'm making notes for some OSC videos, so here is a bit of a brain dump on general OSC control recommendations...


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Quick tips for TouchOSC + Numerology 4 Pro Setup:

- Setup a Generic OSC controller in N4's Controller Setup dialog.

- Start TouchOSC on your iDevice. In TouchOSC's prefs, you should be able to pick N4 as a connection by name. -- Of course, make sure both your Mac and iDevice are on the same network...

- You should be able to use any of the built-in templates to start with. Control-click on a param in N4, choose 'Learn OSC', wiggle a fader on TouchOSC and you should be good to go.

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Once you get it working:

1. Have a Strategy:

The main thing is to have some sort of strategy, and use that to build a custom template that you can use and be happy with. I use the iPad in conjunction with one or two Launchpads. My strategy is to do all 'normal' sequence programming on the Launchpads, and reserve the iPad just for things the Launchpads don't do as well -- specifically mixing & modules that don't have a Launchpad mapping -- i.e. the LFO. I also like to use some 8 step ModSeqs for modulation, and I map those in TouchOSC as well.

Other strategies include:

- If you like to use lots of CV sequencers (ModSeq, IntervalSeq, GateSeq), those are good things to map -- but only map just what you need. Eight steps is often pretty good, 16 is generous, 32 is workable, but starting to get a bit nuts.

- If you tend to setup your stacks with FaderBoxes & ButtonBoxes for controlling them, those are good things to map to the iPad.

- If you are going to use both the iPad and another controller (Launchpad, other Grid, stuff w/ knobs n buttons, etc), sort out how they can work together. For instance, if you have a MIDI controller with knobs and you want to closely mimic an analog sequencer, then use the MIDI controller's knobs for pitches, and maybe buttons on that controller for skip steps, then map sequencer rate, direction, etc to the iPad.

2. Don't try to do too much! (at first)

Start very simple -- perhaps just a few key params on an LFO or ModSeq that you know you want to tweak frequently. Use for a bit, then add a few more items, or setup a page for mixing, etc. Use it for a while, then after a session or two think about what you want to add.

Cheers,
Jim
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