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Old 04-20-2010, 10:01 PM
rexlapin rexlapin is offline
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Question Timeline resolution question

Jim,
I have been enjoying working with the Kinisis synth from Progress Audio
which uses a timeline to step through snapshots of various aspects of
the synth. I was wondering if it would be possible to have a resolution
for the Numerology timeline which zooms to smaller than 1/4 notes in
order to change presets at least every sixteenth note and perhaps less. It
would allow stepping through snapshots of the state of any of the loaded
synths or effects as well as the sequencer modules in a way which more
closely resembles what is possible with Kinisis.
Cheers,
Scott

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Old 04-21-2010, 12:24 AM
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The only way I know to sequence preset changes with arbitrary quantization is to use a sequencer to do it ... but since I haven't found a way to issue preset changes internally (other than with the somewhat-limited Timeline) I use IAC, MIDI Assign, and a extra MonoNote as a "preset sequencer"; it's a lot of fun to use the same basic sequencing tools to get N2 to modify itself. Or you could use any other external MIDI sequencer (Live, Plogue, et al) to do the same thing. Make sure your target stack(s) are set to "Quantize: Off" & "Reset on Presset Change: Off". Downsides to this method are added complexity & the "preset sequencer" is a few buffers off from the rest of N2 due to IAC routing.

Would personally love to see the ability to send preset changes from one stack to another such that everything could happen on the same render cycle.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:27 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a try in the meantime.
I believe there are some new preset looping functions and follow-
actions type options coming in N3 which may come closer to what
I am requesting.
Cheers,
Scott
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Old 04-21-2010, 10:01 AM
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Use ParamMod and a pair of stacks:

- Use one stack to generate the ParamMod, and be sure to place *before* the target stack whose presets you want to modulate (i.e. to the left). So you have two stacks: one to generate the preset change commands, one to respond to them. The ordering of the stacks (source before target) ensures that the ParamMod message is sent out during the correct render cycle.

- In the ParamMod generating stack, setup ParamMod on the StackOutputModule of the target stack, the target param names is "Next Preset Num", values start at 1 and go up from there. The target value range is large, so be sure to tweak your modulation source to only cover the values you really need.

- In the mixer, set quantize for the target stack to "None". This setting is at the bottom of the mixer channel for each stack.

Example attached....

BTW: You cannot reliably modulate the preset for a stack from within the same stack, you have to do it from another stack.

Cheers,
Jim
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:21 PM
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Jim,
Thank you very much! I'll give it a go when I am back in the
studio tomorrow.
Cheers,
Scott
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